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Muad'Dib's avatar

Quite a sad article. Let it go. The no-virus standpoint is the only valid one in the dissident movement and one we should all get behind as it's factual and at the root of the issue. No virus and no contagion means no need for vaccines and no need for any pharmaceuticals.

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Hans Stein's avatar

You sound like one of these missionaries who keep preaching: "There is no death or disease. It is an illusion. You are all perfectly healthy. Trust me. For, if you don't, you are going to burn in hell. At least until Easter Sunday. Perhaps even for an eternal sojourn in those nasty flames you keep inciting. Don't say I didn't warn you."

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Muad'Dib's avatar

I'm nothing like that. Never said disease isn't real, it is, it's simply never contagious and not caused by viruses.

All I'm saying is it's vital for the movement to have our noses in one direction and have our facts straight. That means all need to accept the non-existence of viruses as the fact that it is, so we can attack the concept of vaccination through sound argument, instead of part of the group still pushing for nonsense like safe vaccines (which are impossible and unnecessary).

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Hans Stein's avatar

Thanks for answering kindly. Is not a snake or a waran or a spider or an insect poisonous, too? You can learn to deal with it. But it is still porwntially harmful for many. Viruses are nothing but parasitically replicable proteins. Some bacteria are able to produce harmful proteins and other toxins. Why ignore the evidence of replicable proteinaceous agents? All other hypotheses are even less convincing and of weaker explanatory value.

It us not necessary to declare viral harms as fiction in order to prove vaccines as harmful. You can desensitize against animal toxins as well. The dangers are evident and they do show.

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Will R Thomson's avatar

It's lucky you don't get to decide what reality is.

Facts and science do.

You lose.

You have been awarded the scientific label of stupid dangerous delusional ignorant and psychotic.

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Muad'Dib's avatar

Following the science, no virus has been proven to exist and every study attempting to prove contagion resulted in no people getting sick when exposed to sick people or their fluids.

Science says viruses don't exist.

Science says injected aluminum adjuvants cause autism in kids.

Science says injected foreign proteines lead to anaphylaxis resulting in allergies to the specific protein.

No vaccine ever prevented a single disease, however they are the main driver of chronic diseases and allergies.

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Will R Thomson's avatar

What you mean is being retarded plus deciding to be retarded will stop everyone dying of being retarded.

Great viewpoint

Won't work.

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Muad'Dib's avatar

You call me retarded yet you seem to be the one believing unproven nonsense based in literal fraud.

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Sasha Latypova's avatar

Couple of things:

-Mike does not promote himself as a leader of anything, much less an entire movement. You are quoting a third party writing about Mike, and that's their position, not his position;

-Mike lost a lot of income by speaking out. He had a thriving consulting business and several board memberships and lost all that. Everyone is happy to count money in other people's pockets however, and decide that if someone is "rich" (and believe me, that definition is the most flexible definition under the sun), then it's ok for them to lose hundreds of thousands in income, while for those who are willing for Mike to make that sacrifice a $5 in monthly subscription is an undue financial hardship;

-3% paid subs - Who has that? My ratio is less than 2%.

-Mike Yeadon has never worked in vaccines. Neither have I.

-Finally, Anthony Colpo is a retarded bully among the "no-virus" (mostly anonymous) trolls. I did come to your defense, and he did delete those comments. However, giving him further oxygen maybe counterproductive.

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Dr Michael Taylor's avatar

Agree completely. What’s missing here is any mention of the “Purpose or Outcome” of Yeadon’s work. By explaining in layman’s terms the fallacies of Virology, He’s helped awaken many to the dangers of vaccines and likely stopped numerous folk from taking them and current/future generations from taking ANY jabs. His channel is not only about “virus’s”- it also covers most of the current Agenda topics that we all need to take action on. This current substack post seems like an unnecessary rant that I would place in the very category of the “Virus-No-Virus” debate that it claims to despise so much.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

I said as much in the first chapter under "good" ("agree that all vaccines are harmful"), but I could have emphasized more that his work does stop people from taking the vaccine. Good point. Thank you.

I don't agree with your last sentence, though.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

- He doesn't say, "I am the leader of the no-virus movement" outright, but he is seen as such by many and doesn't object. It might well be that other players push him into this position deliberately to increase the distraction and the divide. This, once again, is not about the no-virus theory. This is about character. All he needs to do is to distance himself openly from the bully assholes, and he doesn't. He encourages them. You are right that Colpo is a retarded bully—so why promote him by your likes and compliments? One answer is that he wants to build more subscribers. He also liked my article, remember? He also massively kissed your and Katherine Watts's asses in the other quoted article. And, finally, most of the article is about the idiots that make him a hero leader, not him saying he is.

- I mentioned that he might have lost consulting income. He earned millions for all his life. Millions is not relative. Millions is rich in my book. He is charging $8, not $5. He is charging $80, not the minimum $30. I am a part-time food deliverer with a few thousand dollars in savings and a significant mortgage, and I charge the minimum, $30. Now, it is not my business how much people charge for their podcast. I only mentioned it to dispel the hero myth, as expressed in the comment section, that Yeadon is beyond grifting and greed and therefore can be trusted. It's a warning, as expressed when I write, "Not yet—watch this space." There is no shame in making an honest living with Substack. That's not my point. My point is how people are building a personality cult around him, and he doesn't object and set things right. I have high expectations of any thought leader because I am sick and tired of the leader culture in our society.

- I currently have 3.1%. CJ Hopkins recently mentioned he has 3%, and Billy Rice Jnr. mentioned a similar figure several times.

- Ok, thanks for the info. But he worked in respiratory illness research, I believe, which would indirectly feed into vaccine production. The point of the article is not so much to slam Mike (except for the Colpo-like), but to shed a critical light on science and the scientific expert cult that stops people from thinking for themselves and using their common sense and keeps their eyes on the ground and independent from manipulation. For example, you recently mentioned an 80% increase in miscarriage or stillbirth, I can't remember exactly, for mRNA vaccinated. Now I don't know the details about where that comes from, so I am not saying it is incorrect for your specific case. But it is 100% false in everyday reality in the mid-north coast of NSW, Australia. My wife is a midwife, and she would definitely notice an 80% increase. She did notice an increase and estimates it at about 10 to 20%, which is still horrendous. I am just mentioning that as an example of where people need to get away from only believing what "science" and the latest "paper and research say" and open their eyes and see what is happening right in front of their noses. That's how I found out that Covid is harmless pretty quickly and many other things science confirmed years later with research.

Thank you for your input, Sasha. Always stimulating.

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Sasha Latypova's avatar

Many people write things about me and I can’t object or confirm them, so it’s best to stick to what the person actually says himself. Just my 2c.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Good point.

But it also matters what people don't say and how they act to assess their character.

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damon mcclure's avatar

She's correct and I've followed Mike Yeadon since he spoke out and I've never seen a hint of the usual signs for a figurehead drive, none.

Tbh your entire article seems to be a personal representation of anothers actions with zero personal insights through knowing him on a level that may give actual value to your opinion.

As for losing a job, I understand that very very well because I did although I was fulltime wages. That a person is employed as a contractor on the basis of their reputation to say he didn't lose a job is catagorically false, he'll never work in the industry again and at his age, (even if he wanted to) rebrand/reskilling is extremely difficult.

I'm open to any points on a "names" actual side but it has to have some evidence and I could not see any(I'll reread).

Talk is cheap and easy but behaviours rarely lie and clusters never do. While I was forced unemployed, at the rallies and trying to wake the other peasantry up to have a person with Mike's experience speaking out and not anonymously had helped me a lot. Where were you?

In saying all that i have people I respect that don't see it the same way I do and due to my life I absolutely trust no one so I'm open to being wrong. BUT without evidence this appears to be slander and a person unable to work is unable to defend themselves without destroying financial reserves they know they need in the future.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Thank you for your comment and giving it so much consideration. Maybe you missed the "good" part in re-reading.

I wrote:

"I still agreed with Dr. Yeadon on many other topics and respected him for speaking out against the pharmaceutical perpetrators since May 2020."

" I welcomed a strong, independent voice."

"There was a 12-point summary of Dr. Yeadon’s position, and I agreed fully or partly with nine out of twelve:

All Vaccines Are Harmful (fully) etc."

"Tbh your entire article seems to be a personal representation of anothers actions with zero personal insights through knowing him"

I had a personal exchange with him, so I probably know him at least as well as 95% of his admirers.

"Unbekoming" probably had slightly less personal knowledge of him, but that didn't stop him from putting him on a pedestal. So did the commenters that glorified his trustworthiness compared to other grifting dissident leaders.

I am simply setting the record right with facts. Having a lot of money is no indication whatsoever if a person will be a grifter or isn't greedy. Elon Musk had tens of billions of dollars a few years ago. That's a lot of money. Did that stop him from getting more?

I never accuse Yeadon of being a grifter at all. I'm just warning people not to be naive and assume stuff.

"Talk is cheap and easy, but behaviours rarely lie, and clusters never do."

I couldn't agree more.

Yeadon very well knew that Colpo acted like a vile bully when he character assassinated me.

Yet, he liked and praised the piece. That's behavior. Praising and liking a bully is aligning with bully values and makes you a bully by association.

Ok, we all make mistakes.

So I gave him a chance to rectify and explain and addressed him personally, I gave him a chance to clarify and unlike. I waited two weeks. He could have contacted me in private, as he did before.

He didn't. He stuck with publicly liking and supporting vile behavior.

While he doesn't directly promote himself as a leader, his actions do. He published more than 300 videos. He has 23,000 followers. He doesn't mind being a public figure.

That's behavior.

We all make mistakes and hurt people, often inadvertently. It shows character if we see that and rectify it and apologize.

Not doing so, is behaviour.

Public figures have power and influence. They need to be held accountable, and the public needs to know about the darker sides of these people.

That's why I showed it. Everyone should thank me for it.

Does that mean he is a bad person all the time?

Absolutely not.

And he still has a chance to rectify and to apologize and to publicly distance himself from extreme bullies.

If he doesn't, that's behavior.

It doesn't mean Yeadon doesn't do a lot of good stuff too and is a decent, friendly, nice person most of the time. I also acknowledged that

"He is a friendly, approachable chap ....."

That's why I titled it "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly." With unmistakable evidence.

It is interesting that you and other critics, who I welcome, completely ignore the "ugly" part we have seen there.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

You damn with faint praise. Who pays you? I feel that may be something you are not saying and I fault you for it as you fault others.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

You are absurd.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Hmm, pushed some buttons in you. I understand; it hurts if hero illusions are destroyed.

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Franz Kafka's avatar

You flatter yourself and reveal the little man inside.

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Sean Lydon's avatar

*I mistrust science and all scientists by default* is incoherent. Opposition to the vaccines, assuming it to be rationally founded, as distinct from joining the mob pro or contra *is* science by default. Accusing other people in this fashion is not just counterproductive but Satanic in the most literal sense: ‘Satan’ literally means accuser, as Paraclete, translated Holy Spirit, means defence advocate. Jesus being a victim of the mob.

Making an idol of one’s cause is putting self in place of God. “Covid” is people turning away from God where human life is in the service of science/mammon. Accusing others instead of speaking the truth easily repeats what it opposes. Joining or starting a pile-on is satanic because seductive. “Ego-based materialist” and suchlike are the clarion call of communist regimes for no other reason. Righteous denunciation of others soon becomes what it’s against, just as same crowd who hailed Jesus then turned on Him. Identical dynamic today on continual repeat: persecutors always *them*, never us.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Sorry, I can’t follow you, Sean. Don’t understand what you are saying, bust mistrust in science and scientists is deeply spiritual for me.

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Sean Lydon's avatar

Science refers to things true generally, that is independent of any individual perspective - true *objectively*. What basis could there be for opposing vaccines as harmful than scientific? I take it what you mean is something like distrust of official or commercialised science where science has been corrupted to serve selfish interests: mammon and/or political power. Selling poison as medicine is down to man’s greed or pride not science which can serve good or ill. Your spiritual concerns however laudable from your own standpoint don’t alter what words *mean*.

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Renee Green ✅'s avatar

Sasha believes that the Scottish Inquiry is a waste of time, and this perspective makes me skeptical about trusting such opinions. It's worth taking a closer look at the inquiry, as it addresses issues that the public needs to understand. This topic is arguably less divisive compared to the ongoing debates about whether or not a virus exists. Bringing more attention to this subject could lead to a better understanding of events.

The discussion surrounding the "no virus" and "yes virus" theories detracts from the real concerns regarding 2020. There was no pandemic; rather, neglect and poor protocols contributed to numerous deaths during that time. I think this debate over the existence of viruses has been orchestrated and elevated to divert focus from the actual events of 2020.

https://biologyphenom.substack.com/

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biologyphenom's avatar

That’s a home run Renne!

‘‘Bringing more attention to this subject could lead to a better understanding of events. The discussion surrounding the "no virus" and "yes virus" theories detracts from the real concerns regarding 2020. There was no pandemic; rather, neglect and poor protocols contributed to numerous deaths during that time. I think this debate over the existence of viruses has been orchestrated and elevated to divert focus from the actual events of 2020.’’

As the Scottish inquiry is almost done we now see the UK COVID inquiry many popular critics deemed a ‘whitewash’ (likely without even watching it) is continuing to reveal deep seated truths about the ‘pandemic’ everyone should be making noise about it but isn’t due to the dominance of other narrtatives, just never talk about the following. What really happened during the spring of 2020.

https://substack.com/@scottishcovidinquiry/note/c-135797250

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Hans Stein's avatar

I like your educational approach. You remind me of Voltaire and of the guy who wrote 'Die letzten Tage der Menschheit', Karl Kraus.

I once briefly had subsctibed to Yeadon's telegram channel. One of his bullies was in charge of the "moderation" there. After a couple exchanges with Yeadon, others, and him he wrote me: "I warned you. You are now being [or getting] banned for two weeks". A friendly lady from Scotland had approached me before and told me that would happen if I went on like this. I truly had entered a cult there for a couple hours.

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Crosscat's avatar

When people are in a cult they behave like this. They also don’t like it when you point it out.

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Muad'Dib's avatar

No-virus is not a cult. It's more like what happens when you finally get out of one. When the veil has lifted, one cannot unsee it.

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Sasha Latypova's avatar

yes it is a cult. Even in the comments here you demonstrate a cult behavior. You ignore the writing and what is being discussed here and keep repeating your cult’s talking points. When people ask you to stop doing that and instead engage in the actual writing under which you comment, typically that’s when abusive bullying behavior starts.

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Sean Lydon's avatar

Yes any cause assumes cult status given a shared foe and some pretext for accusation, to antagonise people. Rights and wrongs soon left behind as we become consumed with defeating our rival. Hence fiercest opposition is often between those nominally on same side as they become rivals for acclaim of same audience.

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Renee Marie's avatar

What I always had a question about was, I could have a handful of sick people around me, and I don’t get sick.

CONvid is the biggest psyop I’ve ever seen in my 61 years-absolutely mind blowing what people didn’t question, and fell for!

I’m an anti-vaxxer, and anti-flu shot.

I don’t get sick.

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Mike Pappy's avatar

Thanks for jarring the trap open.

You're right about us being trained to need experts. At university, nothing was true unless we wrote an expert's name next to a statement.

Interestingly, the experts didn't agree either, of course. A big part of learning is hearing with an open mind but trusting our own capacity to reason and intuit truth.

...but, the truth is, I often have found trusting myself much harder than just listening to experts.

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John Braby's avatar

I'm a little tired of the virus/no myself. However to turn that into a monumental screed like this is quite beyond me.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Tell me about it. Everyday I hope I get released from the Substack spell.. I resisted this article almost two weeks but still lost. Writing therapy maybe?

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John Braby's avatar

Mind you, I like the idea of Virus - a parasite / whose interests are not at all yours / which behaves like those fungi which colonise insects... William Burroughs thinks the Word is a Virus, which surreptitiously imports bogus ideas.

Virus seems to describe too many phenomena not to exist !

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Namekian's avatar

"Unbekoming is a prime example. An incredibly well-read and intelligent person, he/she still needed Yeadon to guide them."

Who says it is a/one person and a private one at that? Just like the Midwestern Doctor, the sheer avalanche of gigantic articles, the enormous amount of knowledge and time involved in all those pieces suggests already that not all is as it seems.

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Mojo Cuba's avatar

The construct of “viruses” is brilliant

Something you can never isolate nor see live in action like bacterium

Causing illnesses you damn can never “cure”

Yet

Generates 100’s of billions of $$ in revenue from laughably ludicrous notion of “supportive care treatments”

Created 1000’s of new illnesses for more money to be spent on

Gave the medical industry a new boogeyman to blame all those pesky deaths and malpractice suites on - the perfect villain to shift the blame upon

Jamie Andrew’s showed the world how viral isolation is a farce with detailed lab videos ( check out his Substack )

So do viruses exist?

Fuck no

But their construct idea is now firmly implanted in the gullible human psyche..

and that perpetual cash cow will NEVER be laid to the slaughter

As for Mike yeadon, he has gotten to the truth indeed, but imo he should have kept the no virus bits unaired until the rest of his positions gain traction and gotten validated by others beyond reproach …

Just like the history of aids , that shit is now repeating with the CovAids injections

And just the same, in time, the vaccine deaths will eventually flush out the truths

I hope ! 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

I agree that your assessment of the virus is a likely possibility. But I think we have currenlty much bigger fish to fry.

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Scaler Wave's avatar

Actually, I prefer to read Dr Yeadon's material rather than your cry baby drama queen ranty bullshit.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Good. Goodbye then. No one asked you to.

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Pav's avatar

... but you can't deny that you expected them to.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

I don't. Still his choice.

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PFStevens's avatar

He is not that which you say he is just because you say it. Why does he have to do what YOU think he should do? Why can he not have his earth shattering awakening publicly, in his own way? Why does everything have to be, “ duh, everybody knows that for 20 + years”

Why do SS writers have to write opinions about other ppl in the movement? Stick to the topic. Uncovering lies

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

That's what I am doing here.

Uncovering certain lies and myths about Mike Yeadon that are circulating increasingly and creating a false personality cult around him and the evident ugly behaviour of cosying up and encouraging a extreme bully to character assassinate people not in full line with the no virus theory.

My piece is more than an unfounded opinion. I back it up with evidence.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

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Yeowoman's avatar

Just a few thoughts. Mike is exceptionally brave relative to other folks I know in his industry. He said very clearly that his substack revenue goes to his admin. Mike has written about how nasty some of the no germ people are and how he cant tolerate the extreme ones and can see how they put people off. Mike has also said he happened to be in the right time and place to be speaking up. He admitted that had he not been effectively retired and buoyant he may not have been in a position to speak up. If anything at this point I sometimes find Mike too dismissive of science and experts .. I know plenty of people engaged in novel biology and physics research that I have a lot of faith and interest in. We need standardised medicines and various chemicals so I dont think we can reject it all. Biology can still be researched in some very valuable ways . and I dont think the whole endeavour is fully corrupted yet. For a shy scientific/academic type I think Mike has done everso well. I also think we do need heroes and people from within respected professions to speak out. Most folk don't have the time to be experts on everything themselves.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Good to hear that he has written about how nasty some no-germ people are. I haven't seen it. And he just liked and encouraged an extremely nasty one, Anthony Colpo that completely character assassinated me. I gave him a chance to explain. He didn't.

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Yeowoman's avatar

Interweb stuff :( . Much fractiosity and misunderstandery I'm afraid.

We have a local 'covid dissenters' group and the 'no germ' lady was so aggressive and angry early on that I almost flipped the other way from resentment. Old Man in a Chair ' (if you recall him) said he was beset by nasty no germ bullies, even to the point of credible death threats . That made me suspicious about how the whole thing was being used.

The truth is more subtle/nuanced but people are rightfully angry and stressed. Not sure how we bridge the gap tbh. I'm happy to consign virology to the bin tho, personally.

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Yeowoman's avatar

I'm also super grateful that my elderly neighbours put my bins out and in when I forget or am too tired to. :) (:

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Me too sometimes, and I do theirs occasionally when they go away. The other day I applied first aid and called an ambulance for my neighbor Carol, who had a fall.

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StuartPS's avatar

There is no debate to be had about virus or no-virus.

There is no evidence anywhere within the body of scientific literature to prove they do exist and that they are contagious. None. Fact. They tried for many decades. They failed.

You believe what you want without evidence. Not a good look attacking those that take a position based on the actual scientific evidence though.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Setting aside my opinion of your opinions…you sound like a petulant 14 year-old. May I suggest you grow up?

P.S. Please open up a dictionary and lookup the word ‘succinct’.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Ok, Mum.

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Pav's avatar

Strange. I never noticed there's a movement called no-virus... Do they gather in secret places, organise, plot and propagandise? Seriously. What defines a group of people who have seen the fallacies of virology as a movement? Few heated arguments on the Internet? Is that what a movement is?

Don't you sometimes think you write for the sake of writing?

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

Of course.

So does everyone else.

Minds having hiccups.

Compulsions and obsessions acted out and expelled, purging ourselves from the needless.

But whatever happens, happens.

Who are we to question it?

I can’t wait for the day when I have nothing to say anymore.

Peace, finally.

Until then I have to express my nature, whether I like it or not.

Nobody asks the wind if it wants to blow or the tides to come in.

Everything just happens.

Doership is an illusion.

Free will an intellectual ego trip.

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damon mcclure's avatar

You're welcome. I always try to tell the truth as I see it and it brings few friends and retains less.

I'm also a big believer in that "the devil is always in the details". Reading your reply the devil that stands out in this case appears to be that Mike had the audacity to like a comment and complement a piece that criticised you.

Begs the ?s- Which piece was it, and how much of the piece was about you?

I must admit this has changed my neutrality on your piece and I'm leaning in Mike's favour.

You stated that Mike hadn't lost his job and I corrected you. You've now moved the goal posts and turned it into "I never called him a grifter". I addressed your implication and you have tried diverting the point.

Out of curiousity have you asked him why he has his subscription set up that people can pay?

Perhaps do yourself a favour and ask him.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

I am slightly confused, as you replied to Yeowoman, but it looks like you addressed me, so I answer.

1. Comparing him to someone losing his job . A few facts.

Mike Yeadon co-founded Ziarco Pharma in 2012. The company was established with a focus on developing treatments for respiratory diseases and other related conditions.

Ziarco Pharma was sold to Novartis for approximately $425 million in 2017. Five years later.

Not a bad profit, even if he had to share some with his co-founders.

He also founded Yeadon Consulting Ltd. in 2011 and this company is still operational as we speak. The consulting work had nothing to do with mRNA vaccines. That he lost significant revenue because of his dissident work is speculation as long we have evidence.

It is likely that he lost some, but it looks like he is still in business. It is now under his wife's name, and reports have been filed at the end of 2024.

Sitting on possibly more than 100 million in savings, the possible loss of some consulting work is very likely bearable for Mike, don't you think?

Do you still want to compare his risk-taking of speaking out and his financial situation with ordinary people who lost their full jobs and struggled immensely to keep their house and were forced to work at sub-paying jobs that didn't require vaccination?

"Mike had the audacity to like a comment and compliment a piece that criticized you."

I can handle criticism. This was beyond criticism. It was a complete character assassination committed by an extreme bully. In the second smear piece, he called me a racist in the headline with my name attached because I assumed, in a joke, that his spaghetti machine is Italian. That's not criticism. He fabricated bullshit by taking my words compleltly out of context.

Why don't you read everything before you make comments and then come back?

Mike supported and liked deliberate bullying. I gave him a chance to explain. He didn't care.

Even Sasha, who supports Mike, admitted that much.

Thank for the opportunity to research and clarify the financial situation. My 20 million number for estimating his wealth is way too low.

Why would I need to ask why he has paid subscriptions set up? Isn't it self-evidence? To earn money. Why else?

Another commentator shared that his subscription fees go towards his "administration costs."

What are the administration costs of running a Substack?

Maybe he meant the other stuff he does. website, youtube etc.

What are we looking at here?

$5000 bucks a year?

Sitting on probably over 100 Million.

Give me a break, damon defending the myth that Yeadon has been fearless and took immense personal risks speaking out.

Because that's what I was challenging here.

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damon mcclure's avatar

While I appreciate the length of the reply I believe my point stands.

I don't care how much money he has, if he earned it it's his.

I'll leave it there because if you cannot aee my point then we'll never reach an agreement but best to post the article (and his support) you're talking about but even then it's a bad look from my perspective.

My 2 cents the best thing about getting older is that I stopped gaf what people think about me. As I said to scientist Geoff Pain, "we walk in different worlds, I work wih barely functioning crackheads". An environment where punchuos and being sacked are the concern not what people think.

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Being Nobody, Going Nowhere's avatar

It shows character to walk away from a debate with dignity. Mutual respect is more important than agreement. Opinions are fickle, decency prevails.

PS: I did link to 1st smear article containing Yeadons comment.

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damon mcclure's avatar

My apologies on the article, I'll re look

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