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Hey Ma Mu! Who decided to write just now - I don’t care, but I feel like it is me, just me, telling you in this moment, that it sounds very interesting to me what you wrote and I wait for part 2. Don’t know however, if I then will read it. But if I understand you right, it will not be important. 😊 beate

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As a (now retired) clinical psychologist and (still active) spiritual seeker, I too have pondered over the knotty and paradoxical issue of free will.

Which, I agree, is a very Western concept.

The study of psychology - as you would expect - shows just how much of our behaviour is determined, between the biological/genetic factors and the behavioural/social ones.

It's quite sobering, really.

Yet as a spiritual seeker, I have to believe in a tiny core of free will that we all can access. (In the end, I acknowledge that this might be because it is simply too depressing to think otherwise.)

One of my early influences was Viktor Frankl, who was a jew in the holocaust, losing his wife and children and all the rest of his family and enduring horrific conditions himself in one of the camps.

Which, I think, gave him the right to speak of such existential matters.

From his book "Man's Search for Meaning" (back in the pre-PC days):

"Our ultimate freedom, which cannot be taken away, is our freedom to choose our attitude in any given situation."

(I'm quoting something that was burned into my memory 50 years ago... I also replaced "man's" with "our", but please allow me some creative licence !)

Now, you might argue that even that is determined by who we are, and everything that has made us up to this point, and there is no good definitive rebuttal to that.

The Christian mystics (my understanding from study and contemplation, though I cannot claim to be either a Christian or a mystic) have a concept that I think is very similar to the Eastern ones you talk about: that we are free to follow the Will of God, or not.

But ultimately the Will of God will prevail, because - again, my understanding - is that it is not possible to win against God, the All-that-is.

Morehei Ueshiba, the founder of the martial art of Aikido (which I studied and practised for over 10 years) also taught this and applied it as one of his deeper principles:

"I am one with the Universe. If you attack me you cannot win, because you are attacking the Universe itself."

So they are all saying this: you have a choice - either flow with the Universe or try to fight it.

But ultimately, trying to fight the Universe is not going to get you anywhere!

BTW, I have not yet read the Nisargdatta Maharej book - though I have downloaded it. Thank you for the link.

And I am sure you will say all this - and more - much more eloquently in your next essay!

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